101 cities in the 9 bay area counties. sometimes difficult to tell when you cross a border unless you see the city limit signs. paul challenged business civic lead daers to think about dissolving the lines at the opportunity arises. >> what you have to did is catch the moment when politician or leader is retiring and say maybe it's time to combine our city manager position for our fire department. >> tech future and spoke at the state of the valley conference suggesting the by area sudden think of itself as city state. seemless intent saving money and improving services. some bay area city recognize the benefit of consolidation. sunnyvale police fire emt combined. los gatos places serve resident of monty. >> the bay area has 6 million people but lieutenants of small fire department. l.a. county cost less per citizen and they have a fleet of 9 fire helicopters. the bay area has no fire helicopters at all. >>reporter: president of the san jose silicon valley chamber of commerce embrace the city state con situation. we really